Going embarress the old bugger now. After perusing the web for a nice pair of mtb shorts, Taz offered to send me, free gratus, a pair of Endura Zymes.
Well they arrived today and while i haven't yet used them in anger, they fit like a glove and are the dogs danglies.
So i would like to publically say "Thank you Taz, i owe you a beer or two"
The generosity and friendliness on this forum is second to none.