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greeneye
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could be controversial
      #33600 - 13/06/2009 21:08

open and heated debate on 'handicap parking'.

a few weeks ago i was at dalby FOREST and the car park was full except the handicap parking spots, i asked if i could park there as the car park was full and i was told no you must use the over flow car park AKA a fcuking field!

now i suppose some places will benefit from having handicap parking bays but in a forest?? i think fcucking not!!!

i live a few miles away from the metro centre, europes biggest indoor shopping centre and it has handicap parking to, so when the carparks are full which they always are there is a mass of empty spaces.

so a handicaped person can make there way round europes biggest shopping centre but cant make there way an extra 100 yards to there cars???

WHAT FCUCKING EVER!!!!!

if i start a 'ban handicap carpark spaces' campaign would anyone be interested in giving there support.

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Chiz
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Re: could be controversial [Re: greeneye]
      #33603 - 13/06/2009 21:14

Tesco Extra in Kingston Park has about 70 disabled parking spaces, okay it's a big store, but are you telling me that at any one time there are 70 physically disabled people in there?...

No there isn't, what there is, is maybe 20 physically disabled people and 50 people committing benefit fraud.

The whole system needs looked at.

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MTBLeague
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Re: could be controversial [Re: Chiz]
      #33614 - 13/06/2009 22:07

There are a few outside some SPORTS CENTERS ?@!~# -WTF?

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cg172
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Re: could be controversial [Re: MTBLeague]
      #33615 - 13/06/2009 22:20

Plenty of disabled people play wheelchair basketball or similar... You'll all be glad of the disbled spaces when your (our?!?!?!) knees are all f**ed later in life.

In all seriousness though, businesses are just doing what's required of them by law. I'd guess it's done statistically, i.e; 1 in 100 people may have a disablilty (or claim to...), therefore, 1 in 100 spaces needs to be allocated for them. Equal rights folks, it's what our forefathers fought for.

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Tango
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Re: could be controversial [Re: cg172]
      #33628 - 14/06/2009 07:06

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Plenty of disabled people play wheelchair basketball or similar... You'll all be glad of the disbled spaces when your (our?!?!?!) knees are all f**ed later in life.

In all seriousness though, businesses are just doing what's required of them by law. I'd guess it's done statistically, i.e; 1 in 100 people may have a disablilty (or claim to...), therefore, 1 in 100 spaces needs to be allocated for them. Equal rights folks, it's what our forefathers fought for.




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Tango
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Re: could be controversial [Re: Tango]
      #33632 - 14/06/2009 07:21

must say though

it does get on my t1ts when some bloke in a porsche carrera 4 or the like parks in a disabled spot and then jogs into the shops because he is too lazy to park elsewhere.

now does that annoy me because he is in the parking space or because he has a carrera 4??

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brij
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Re: could be controversial [Re: Tango]
      #33634 - 14/06/2009 07:27

My Dad has alzheimers ( not sure if thats spelt right) And he has a disability parking badge. So don't forget it doesn't always have to be a physical disabailty to park there! Tango i'm 100% with you mate totally annoying as is people parking in parent and baby spaces with no kids!!!

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Re: could be controversial [Re: brij]
      #33637 - 14/06/2009 08:37

when mywife was towards the end of her pregancy with our daugter she was so big she couldnt get out of the car in standard space so she had to use disabled bays and got clamped at our local asda.
It took us nearly a year to get our money back from the clampers even with the support of the store manager


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Re: could be controversial [Re: Tango]
      #33638 - 14/06/2009 08:38

Quote:

must say though

it does get on my t1ts when some bloke in a porsche carrera 4 or the like parks in a disabled spot and then jogs into the shops because he is too lazy to park elsewhere.

now does that annoy me because he is in the parking space or because he has a carrera 4??




You do have to be a right arrogant prick who thinks he owns the world to own any porche.

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greeneye
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Re: could be controversial [Re: cg172]
      #33642 - 14/06/2009 10:28

Quote:

Plenty of disabled people play wheelchair basketball or similar... You'll all be glad of the disbled spaces when your (our?!?!?!) knees are all f**ed later in life.

In all seriousness though, businesses are just doing what's required of them by law. I'd guess it's done statistically, i.e; 1 in 100 people may have a disablilty (or claim to...), therefore, 1 in 100 spaces needs to be allocated for them. Equal rights folks, it's what our forefathers fought for.




thats kinda my point, if the person can blast round a court playing basketball then im fairly sure an extra 50 yards to get to his/her car isnt guna be a problem.

i have seen so many tiny carparks with like 20 spaces and 5 of them are for disabled folk. you dont dare park in them out of fear of getting clamped.

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col
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Re: could be controversial [Re: greeneye]
      #33645 - 14/06/2009 10:32

When was the last time you actually saw someone in a wheelchair using the spaces? Maybe they should just change the picture in the spaces to either an old person or a really fat person.

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Tango
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Re: could be controversial [Re: col]
      #33649 - 14/06/2009 10:48

Quote:

Maybe they should just change the picture in the spaces to either an old person or a really fat person.




that's great, then i could use them

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brij
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Re: could be controversial [Re: col]
      #33653 - 14/06/2009 11:11

Like i said you cant always tell from looking what the disability is? If having a space at the front of the car park helps make that persons life a touch easier then i'm all for it.

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cg172
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Re: could be controversial [Re: greeneye]
      #33654 - 14/06/2009 11:11

Quote:

Quote:

Plenty of disabled people play wheelchair basketball or similar... You'll all be glad of the disbled spaces when your (our?!?!?!) knees are all f**ed later in life.

In all seriousness though, businesses are just doing what's required of them by law. I'd guess it's done statistically, i.e; 1 in 100 people may have a disablilty (or claim to...), therefore, 1 in 100 spaces needs to be allocated for them. Equal rights folks, it's what our forefathers fought for.




thats kinda my point, if the person can blast round a court playing basketball then im fairly sure an extra 50 yards to get to his/her car isnt guna be a problem.

i have seen so many tiny carparks with like 20 spaces and 5 of them are for disabled folk. you dont dare park in them out of fear of getting clamped.




I think the main point of a disabled space is that it allows access to the side of the car with a wheelchair. I sometimes have bother getting out of the car in normal spaces, and I seem to have the use of both of my legs... Can't begin to imagine how difficult it would be if I was disabled in some way.

To the best of my knowlege, a lot of diabled people detest being patronised. They normally cope very well in everyday life, but this is one area where they need something different to the rest of us. I agree that a lot of them tend to be used by people with no disbility though (or maybe no obvious disability?)...

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Re: could be controversial [Re: cg172]
      #33659 - 14/06/2009 12:08

No clamping in Scotland, it's almost defined as extortion or blackmail.

But if you are stupid enough, the police will still call in a truck to lift your car, and pay the usual fees.

There was a big debate about this recently as there are hardly any wardens policing this one for the whole of Glasgow, anybody who knows someone with a genuine Diaabled badge takes it and uses it for free parking, it's never checked.

If the driver is not diabled themselves they can use the parking bay for dropping off and picking up the disabled person but must park else where in the intervening time, again this never happens and is never policed.

Why not go back to the days when they had the single personed fiberglass bodied 3 wheelers, then only the diabled would use them, say like a bright yellow Smart car, then this type of fraud will be reduced.

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SLB07
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Re: could be controversial [Re: MTBLeague]
      #33665 - 14/06/2009 12:36

What c0cks me off is the number of healthy looking people on those motorised buggy things... The vast majority of them just look like they can't be bothered walking - saw some fat, stupid looking, chavvy cow riding one the other day and she was scooting it along with her feet - WTF?!

I know not all disabilities are visible etc etc but still!


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Re: could be controversial [Re: SLB07]
      #33666 - 14/06/2009 12:48

your forgeting the spaces are bigger to make it easier for them to get wheelchairs and stuff out. why shouldn't a disabled person have the right to go to a forest and park close to a cafe or what ever is there? did it really hert you to go in the over flow? probs not, your about to ride off road so parking in a field aint a big deal :P

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Re: could be controversial [Re: SLB07]
      #33670 - 14/06/2009 13:14

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she was scooting it along with her feet - WTF?!






second that, ive seen the exact same thing before?!

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greeneye
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Re: could be controversial [Re: kingcraig]
      #33703 - 14/06/2009 19:50

Quote:

your forgeting the spaces are bigger to make it easier for them to get wheelchairs and stuff out. why shouldn't a disabled person have the right to go to a forest and park close to a cafe or what ever is there? did it really hert you to go in the over flow? probs not, your about to ride off road so parking in a field aint a big deal :P




if the spaces at any given place are bigger for wheel chair access then i have no problem but most of the time there not and the ones at dalby were not!!

besides people keep mentioning a wheelchair, i rarely see folk in wheelchairs.

i find it hard to believe that someone will pay £7 to get into to dalby just to go to the cafe, more than likely there guna be walking.

and yes it frigging did hurt to drive my car through a frigging field with pi55 off humps and ditches.

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greeneye
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Re: could be controversial [Re: greeneye]
      #33704 - 14/06/2009 19:55

just to make it clear.

i have no problem with disabled folk, its a sad sight to see folk who cant do everything i can, i would never patronise anyone disabled or abled its the lowest thing.

i have no problem with anything made to make life easier, i would gladly give up my space,seat, place etc for anyone who looked like they need it more than i do.

i just cant stand disabled parking places where they really shouldnt be.

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