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Ben_Saville
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Legs
      #28126 - 29/04/2009 11:14

I rode Dalby at the weekend, would like to speed up a bit but my fitness was better than I expected.

However after about 1/2 way my legs gave up and I lost the ability to stand up out of the saddle for more than a few seconds. This made the downhill sections pretty tricky.

Is there anything I can do to improve this, so my legs retain the ability to stand up?
I was still able to pedal, and the uphills (seated) didn't really cause me too many problems and I finished in a fairly respectable 3:17 (excluding breaks!).

Obviously I'd like to improve on this and generally speed up, and I think sorting out this issue with my legs could be crucial to that!

Any exercises, or training methods I should use?

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fredmundo
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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #28141 - 29/04/2009 12:41

I have dropped my sadle down when on the road and started actively to stand up as much as possible when riding.. it's helped a bit I'd say.

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Re: Legs [Re: fredmundo]
      #28144 - 29/04/2009 12:52

Leg ex'z.. try these for strength and stamina building, they are best done on a variable resistance exercise bike (static), simply because you have more control.

10 min progressive warm up - start gently and slowly increase cadence and effort to about 60% of your maximum speed of pedal rotation and workable resistance.

Then

30 secs at 90% resistance and at your "sprint" pace,
30 secs at 50% resistance and at your "flat section" easy pace.

repeat these intervals 5 times

then 5 minutes at recovery pace, get your wind back and a little water may help!

then do another set of five intervals as described above,

then cool down, slowly shedding resistance and speed.

get off bike and wobble away !


If you don't have access to a static training bike - then find a steep but smooth hill (tarmac) which you can climb a section of in 30 seconds and which has room at the bottom for your 30 second recovery and five minute recovery phases.

The problem I always have with trying to do "training" activities out in the real world is concentrating on not just taking off for a ride!

Good Luck!


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Ben_Saville
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Re: Legs [Re: Mucky_Mick]
      #28150 - 29/04/2009 13:13

cheers guys

I do have access to an exercise bike so will definitely give it a go!

Any other suggestions?
Will squats help with some weights? perhaps holding a semi - squatted position with a relatively low weight?
(I agree that sounds bad - but hopefully someone will understand what I'm talking about!)

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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #28356 - 30/04/2009 18:05

Hi ben, I think 'standing still' may help, a lot of martial artists use it to build qi.

Straighten your spine, this normally involves pushing you're forward I little, hold your arms out in ffron of you like you are clutching something to your hest or hugging somone. You want your hands a little below your belly button (at your dantiene, not sure of spelling).. Bend your knees a little, stay relaxed and focus on your breathing.
Hold that for 20mins, or untill your legs are totally twitching and you really can't hold it... If that happens really soon, you are too low.

Over time as it gets easier you then start bending your knees more and open yyour arms more gradually until your knees are bend 90 degrees and your arms are held out straight so your torso is like a. T.

It's similar to what you have been suggesting I think.

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Ben_Saville
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Re: Legs [Re: fredmundo]
      #28357 - 30/04/2009 18:09

Would Tai Chi (don't know the spelling!) help then?

I'm sure I could find a local class, I've heard its very relaxing!

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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #28367 - 30/04/2009 20:39

yup anything like that will help build strength in your legs ans arms.. general well being. You'll also find that that it will help strengthen your tendons in your dodgy knee..

It's perfect for the recovery process.. low impact but strengthening.

I havea freidns who teaches in sheffield and learns in manx.. I'd guess that you find one formte same school.. you can also learn Wing Chun and other forms that are useful.

It is the Michael Tse school me thinks.
http://www.qimagazine.com/
That will give you what you want.

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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #28369 - 30/04/2009 20:44

Quote:

cheers guys

I do have access to an exercise bike so will definitely give it a go!

Any other suggestions?
Will squats help with some weights? perhaps holding a semi - squatted position with a relatively low weight?
(I agree that sounds bad - but hopefully someone will understand what I'm talking about!)





i wake up with one of these every morning, cant say as its helped my stamina much


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Re: Legs [Re: Didzy2009]
      #28370 - 30/04/2009 20:47

well you are obviously not putting it to good use often enough.

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Ben_Saville
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Re: Legs [Re: Didzy2009]
      #28371 - 30/04/2009 20:48

You searched long and hard for that one!

Well done!

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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #28379 - 30/04/2009 21:05

Quote:

You searched long and hard for that one!

Well done!





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Ben_Saville
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Re: Legs [Re: Didzy2009]
      #28417 - 01/05/2009 09:20

Again...

Well done!

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Re: Legs [Re: Ben_Saville]
      #35089 - 28/06/2009 20:58

One more thought.
Sprint up the hills. Every chance you get, sprint up the hills. This will get you fit. Also, I occasinally use the gym. On their bikes I use the XC program and stand up whenever there is a good hill section (And sprint it).

Luck

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